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Coronavirus compared to Influenza--2 pandemics

Friends:                                            4/23/2020

I want you to put on your analytic thinking cap, and put aside the crapolla that our media has manipulated our social vector of our brain.  You have been conditioned to see as good American our government protecting us.  The numbers from reliable sources tell us we have been fooled again.  Those numbers tell us the coronavirus is less deadly than the yearly influenza epidemics. 

Why are we trashing our economy for the coronavirus which has a death rate of 2.3% Wikipedia—with over 90% of them being elderly or infirmed or both?

NEWLY ADDED:  Case fatality rates (2.3%) by age and 4 countries.  The influenza this winter season caused between 450,000 and 1.2 million deaths [4/18/2020]

INTRO: I found a lack of evidence to support the reaction to this coronavirus.  According to CDC  for the 2018-19 U.S. influenza season, an estimated 16.5 million cases and 490,000 hospitalized, 34,200 died.—and this is a typical-early influenza season.  For the coronavirus Riverside County 3/25, 59 confirmed cases and 6 deaths, San Diego County 242 cases and 1 death (CA Dept of Public Health).  We didn’t need to crash the economy to protect us because if no preventive acts occurred the numbers for this season would have been for the coronavirus less than for this year’s influenza epidemic with its 16.5 million cases and 34,200  deaths.  Why all the over-reaction?   

This leads me to wonder what power behind the curtain is orchestrating world-wide news frenzy and government response to an infection which is only fatal in 2-3% of those infected—of which over 80% are the elderly and/or the infirmed.  A number of influenza epidemics with far deadlier effect, such as the 2009-2010, which caused the deaths of 284,000 deaths world-wide—WHO #s.   Read on about the bad advice for seniors and informed, and why the crashing of the economy.

Below is pasted from Wikipedia  3/8 & 3/30/2020    [brackets JK]

Outbreaks of coronavirus types of relatively high mortality are as follows:


Virus type


2003 severe acute respiratory syndrome outbreak



2012 Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus outbreak


Over 400[32]

2015 Middle East respiratory syndrome outbreak in South Korea



2018 Middle East respiratory syndrome outbreak



2019–20 coronavirus outbreak


At least 3,646[35]

NEWLY ADDED   Case fatality rates (%) by age and country  [3/18/2020]











China as of 11 February[121]










Italy as of 12 March[122]










South Korea as of 15 March[123]




























United States 3/25/19








Note: The lower bound includes all cases. The upper bound excludes cases that were missing data.

On Why seniors die:  basic biology lesson:  the high rate of death among seniors is because of their metabolic dysfunction resulting in the lowered production of the energy molecule ATP which is produced in every cell by the mitochondria.  Mitochondria  are tiny factories inside an  organelle with a cell.  Their main function is to put a phosphate group on ADT molecule and  turn ADP into an ATP molecule.  Reactions in the body then remove the phosphate molecule and use the energy released for thousands of different uses.  95% of the energy producing chemical reactions involve ATP’s conversion to ADP—the removal of a phosphate group.  ATP is the energy molecule created from the metabolism of fats and carbohydrates.  Old age reduces the rate of production of ATP in the mitochondria of very cell—thus the reduced endurance with age.  Less ATP causes all tissues and cells to function significantly less than when that person was 20-years old.  Three main events affect the production of ATP:  1) old age, 2) certain conditions such as advanced cancer and diabetes, and 3) over one-third of the prescription drugs taken.  All three of these affect the immune system, which like all other systems uses ATP for its energy (functions).  These 3 effects explain why nearly all of the deaths are among the infirmed and the seniors.  The highest death rate is in assisted living facilities because those places make a kickback (spread) for their doctors prescribing drugs and living in a group facility where they are exposed to those with the flu, coronavirus, and other illnesses. 

This brings me to the BIG piece of obvious advice that is obvious and isn’t given because it effects profits.    If elderly or infirmed, then stop taking those drugs that significantly lower the production of ATP, they weaken your immune response.  The immune system runs, like everything else in your body upon the ATP molecule.  Second, since influenza is a greater risk than the coronavirus, this should be done every season. This is the main reason you don’t hear about stopping certain drugs during the cold season to lower the risk of becoming sick, and if infirmed and elderly of dying.  . 

Drugs that lower the production of ATP  Polypharmacy is a major cause in that a number of drugs down-regulate the mitochondria and as a consequence promote morbidity by down regulating the immune system which runs upon ATP (adenosine triphosphate).    It is likely with polypharmacy more than one drug lowers the production of ATP.  A German study of 750 in a row hospital-admissions published in 2016 found that those for in their seventies, they averaged 6 prescriptions medications, the high being 22 and the low 0.  The widely prescribed statins (over 60% for senior men) take them.  They lower partially by blocking the mevalonate pathway about 40%, depending on dose, and in that pathway is the production of CoQ10, which is essential in the electron train transport of the Krebs cycle’s production of ATP, thus they promote in senior illness and much, much more.  Since ATP supplies the muscles with energy, statins promote death from a myocardial infarction.  It is widely acknowledge that (A) the lipid hypothesis is a scam, and thus (B) that lowering cholesterol is part of that scam; viz., statins do not prevent in the real-world population ischemic events.   Nearly all current neuroleptic drugs (affect nerve cells) lower metabolism and thus  ATP.  Many conditions are treated with neuroleptic drugs besides emotional conditions;  such as COPD, premenstrual syndrome, pain, migraines, seizures, nausea, hypertension, and others.  If drowsiness is a side effect and it isn’t an opioid, then it is likely a neuroleptic drug.  Those two types of medications in addition to lowering ATP, also reduce cognitive functions,  libido, muscle tone thereby increases risk of death from heart attack (the heart is a muscle), and they increase the risk for dementia.   By reducing cognitive function, the patient is more likely to rely upon their physician and take very pill he recommends.  Third, very obvious, avoid the immunosuppressant drugs.  By now you should know about the role of industries, and how they put profits before people—etc.   


General sound advice during winter season if in the high-risk group:  How carefully you should follow these depends on your risk factors.  1) Stop taking drugs that suppress immune function either directly or through diminished production of ATP.  2) wear a hospital type mask in public, 3) avoid those who have a cold.  4) stay out of commercial heated building were the air is recirculated, 5) since there is no effective treatment for the RNA viruses such including  influenza and coronavirus stay away from clinics where you be in a room with sick people.[1] 6) Don’t rely on the information supplied by physicians and the media since both are repeating pharma who puts profits before people—put garbage in and you get garbage out.  7) when possible exposed to droplets, rub your hands against your pants or skirt to shed most of them.  8)  change the mask often when in a high-risk area.  9) wash the mask with dilute bleach or hydrogen peroxide if they are to be reused. 

The virus is small enough that some will be sucked through the mask, and the droplet that are expelled by a sick person, they will dry-out and some viruses will be sucked into your lungs.  Replace your mask frequently.  The virus must enter the lungs in large numbers, not be trapped in the phlegm.  These RNA viruses are the respiratory type, in your stomach or eyes they are harmless, in the lungs, they reproduce in the alveola cells as designed.  There must be enough of them to overwhelm the system which destroys infected cells with their virus content.   For example, my immune system has got me through 75 flu seasons, and failed just once in the winter of 1973.  Having the flu is different in degree of severity compared to the grip by a factor of 2 or more.   Think back on the last time you were bed ridden cold for over a week between November and April, and wouldn’t consider going anywhere; that was likely caused by influenza.     

[1] Most of those who die and are hospitalize have a secondary opportunistic infectious condition. 

Influenza, commonly known as the flu, is an infectious disease of birds and mammals caused by an RNA virus of the family Orthomyxoviridae (the influenza viruses). In humans, common symptoms of influenza infection are fever, sore throat, muscle pains, severe headache, coughing, and weakness and fatigue.[7] In more serious cases, influenza causes pneumonia, which can be fatal, particularly in young children and the elderly. The cough, however, may last for more than two weeks [just like the coronavirus].  While sometimes confused with the common cold, influenza is a much more severe disease and is caused by a different type of virus. . . . Typically, influenza is transmitted from infected mammals through the air by coughs or sneezes, creating aerosols containing the virus, . . . Influenza can also be transmitted by saliva, nasal secretions, feces and blood [which all are possible and unlikely]. Healthy individuals can become infected if they breathe in a virus-laden aerosol directly. . . Flu viruses can remain infectious for about one week at human body temperature, over 30 days at 0 C (32 F), and indefinitely at very low temperatures (such as lakes in northeast Siberia). Most influenza strains can be inactivated easily by disinfectants and detergents  [and stomach acid].   Most people will recover completely in about one to two weeks, but others will develop life-threatening complications (such as pneumonia). Thus, influenza can be deadly, especially for the weak [and those taking drugs which lower the immune system functions].  “CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season. “

Influenza pandemics Major modern influenza pandemics[29][30][31]



World pop.


Reproduction rate[32]

Infected (est.)

Deaths worldwide

Case fatality rate

Pandemic severity

1889–90 flu pandemic[33]


1.53 billion

Likely H3N8 or H2N2

2.10 (IQR, 1.9–2.4)[33]

20–60%[33] (300–900 million)

1 million



1918 flu[34]


1.80 billion


1.80 (IQR, 1.47–2.27)

33% (500 million)[35] or >56% (>1 billion)[36]

20[36][37]–100[38][39] million

2–3%,[36] or ~4%, or ~10%[40]


Asian flu


2.90 billion


1.65 (IQR, 1.53–1.70)

>17% (>500 million)[36]

1–4 million[36]



Hong Kong flu


3.53 billion


1.80 (IQR, 1.56–1.85)

>14% (>500 million)[36]

1–4 million[36]



2009 flu pandemic[41][42]


6.85 billion


1.46 (IQR, 1.30–1.70)

11-21% (0.7–1.4 billion)[43]




Typical seasonal flu[t 1]

Every year

7.75 billion

A/H3N2, A/H1N1, B, ...

1.28 (IQR, 1.19–1.37)

5–15% (340 million – 1 billion)[46]
3–11% or 5–20%
[47][48] (240 million–1.6 billion)




2019–20 seasonal flu[51][52][t 2]


7.75 billion

A(H1N1)pdm09, B/Victoria, A(H3N2)


11%[t 2] (800 million[t 2])

0.45-1.2 million[t 2]




US figures influenza


38-45 million US infected

400 to 730,000 hospitalization   CDC estimate March 30, period from Oct 1, 2019 to March 21 2020, coronavirus 32,991 which includes US, Puerto, and 4 other territories.  2,405 deaths as of 3/29.  1/10th the low-figure flu deaths

The majority of deaths [1918 influenza] were from bacterial pneumonia, a secondary infection caused by influenza, but the virus also killed people directly, causing massive hemorrhages and edema in the lung.[59]  [Thus going to a hospital and being placed in a ward with those who have secondary conditions such as pneumonia greatly increases the risk of dying.  Also being on an immune-suppressant drug; they weaken the immune system with deadly consequences.  What has our government and the media advises wash your hands, go to a clinic, and not a word about immunosuppressant drugs—GOT IT]--JK


The 2019-2020 seasonal flu, estimated 11% of the world population infected and between 34 to 49 million in the US with an estimated 8,000 deaths by March 1. 

[The current outbreak of the corona virus is pegged at killing under 5,000 (3/21/2020) worldwide.  The chances are much greater of getting influenza, which has the same symptoms; thus eliminating diagnosis by symptoms for coronavirus. ]

“Typical seasonal flu; world population 7.75 billion, people infected ~5-15%.  Deaths world-wide deaths/year 290,000 to 650,000”  -- [so why the frenzy over corona virus????]

Wikipedia: ~~ influenza pandemic

“Typical seasonal flu; world population 7.75 billion, people infected ~5-15%.  Deaths world-wide deaths/year 290,000 to 650,000”  -- so why the frenzy over corona virus????

So why the hell is the media and governments world-wide causing hysteria over the coronavirus?  The number are far less than for influenza.  Shutting down businesses with its effect upon employment and the major drop in the stock and other markets will definitely has caused a depression, one much worse than experienced in 2008-2009.  The fix through credits generated by the bank based on loans from our government will add over $500 billion dollars in interest payment for the T-bills and other debt notes that will be issued to raise the funds for the stimulation of our economy of which over 70% will go to global corporations and American banks.  With fractional reserve financing for every dollar of government debt purchased by the banks there will use $10 in credit.   That is how our currency is expanded.   See chart at the bottom. 


The chart below is telling in that those figures are causally associated with our high sugar diet,  the conditions that this diet causes, known as conditions associated with the western diet,  drugs that lower the production of ATP, our energy molecule which is produced from fats and carbohydrates, and excess amino acids, and that  the high sugar diet causes mitochondrial dysfunction and thereby reduces the production of ATP.  All bodily systems run on ATP, including the immune system—GOT IT!.  

On the Corona virus, governments and media orchestrated frenzy  

Experts, including the WHO, have since agreed that an estimated 284,500 people were killed by the disease, [2009-2010 flu] about 15 times the number of deaths in the initial death toll.”  If you want the answer to why the global hysteria, it  is found in the documentaries The Money Masters and The Secret of Oz  – history of banks issuing money and their deliberate creation of economic crashes ever 3 to 20 years.  The Money Masters made in 1995 was played twice on the independent PBS stations, and The Secret Oz won a documentary award in 2009.  Prof Richard Wolf explains how the Federal Reserve creates money out of trillions of dollars of US debt. 

As Napoleon said, the hand that gives is above the hand that takes.  No nation can/will stand up to the debt-based bank-controlled currency issuing system.  Gaddafi of Libya tried to set up with other nations a trans-African currency and was kill in 2011 by NATO forces supported by a small group of Libyans.  They war for neoliberal government, Libya victim and the spin we get


Harvard Prof. Dr. Marcia Angell: We certainly are in a health care crisis, ... If we had set out to design the worst system that we could imagine, we couldn't have imagined one as bad as we have.